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		<title>By: Sardegna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sardegna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people are typing all sorts of nonsense into their address bars. Nonexistent domains, bogus tlds (there was in fact a CAIDA study on this years ago), strings missing tld extensions, URLs with illegal characters, and who knows what else. Just look at the amount of typo traffic we keep reading about. Think about the portion of other “typos” that must never find a host. I think this is all “quality nonsense”. It has value because it shows us what people are looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people are typing all sorts of nonsense into their address bars. Nonexistent domains, bogus tlds (there was in fact a CAIDA study on this years ago), strings missing tld extensions, URLs with illegal characters, and who knows what else. Just look at the amount of typo traffic we keep reading about. Think about the portion of other “typos” that must never find a host. I think this is all “quality nonsense”. It has value because it shows us what people are looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: KT</title>
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		<dc:creator>KT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sedo was completely useless for me. I had my domains listed with them and parked with them for about 3 years. Not one lead and during the same time I sold 3 or 4 domains all well above $5000 by buyers simply contacting me directly using the email address for the domain owner. I was averaging about $3 a month in parking. I got fed up with them for their stupid limit rule for listing domains over $10,000. I took all the domains away and took parking to my godaddy reseller account. Last month they made $63 in PPC. That is about 20 times more than Sedo. I am upset that I lost on the extra money for 3 years but happy that I realized and stopped getting screwed by sticking with sedo. I am so mad at Sedo that I am spreading the word about my experience with their lackluster parking revenue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sedo was completely useless for me. I had my domains listed with them and parked with them for about 3 years. Not one lead and during the same time I sold 3 or 4 domains all well above $5000 by buyers simply contacting me directly using the email address for the domain owner. I was averaging about $3 a month in parking. I got fed up with them for their stupid limit rule for listing domains over $10,000. I took all the domains away and took parking to my godaddy reseller account. Last month they made $63 in PPC. That is about 20 times more than Sedo. I am upset that I lost on the extra money for 3 years but happy that I realized and stopped getting screwed by sticking with sedo. I am so mad at Sedo that I am spreading the word about my experience with their lackluster parking revenue.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
		<link>http://www.qualitynonsense.com/2477/domain-type-in-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-11126</link>
		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. It&#039;s actually one of the most informative articles I&#039;ve read on the web about domain name profiteering.

The tickler about domain names is that you can register them cheap. So you think you can make a profit on each one without any effort. 

The reality is, like Sean Leigh&#039;s excellent post testifies to, you have to develop them a little to make them profitable. This doesn&#039;t actually take that much work if you understand SEO. 

I shy away from 1 page blogs but can put up a five page well SEO&#039;d wordpress blog with some sort of monetization in a couple of hours. By picking keyword rich domains and optimising them a little, I can put up a couple a day. 

Excellent article, though. Exactly what I wanted to read.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. It&#8217;s actually one of the most informative articles I&#8217;ve read on the web about domain name profiteering.</p>
<p>The tickler about domain names is that you can register them cheap. So you think you can make a profit on each one without any effort. </p>
<p>The reality is, like Sean Leigh&#8217;s excellent post testifies to, you have to develop them a little to make them profitable. This doesn&#8217;t actually take that much work if you understand SEO. </p>
<p>I shy away from 1 page blogs but can put up a five page well SEO&#8217;d wordpress blog with some sort of monetization in a couple of hours. By picking keyword rich domains and optimising them a little, I can put up a couple a day. </p>
<p>Excellent article, though. Exactly what I wanted to read.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 02:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traffic is under estimated people do not type in urls anymore search is the number to pay attention to,also if you have a generic keyword domain that sells a million dollar item then ten searches a month would be fantastic.
I think what makes a domain valuable is what it describes and the business behind it,( the four c principal,) you are that business on the web and that is the most powerful branding you can have, i only have generic keyword domains and they all get lots of search but very few direct type in traffic one gets roughly 200 direct type ins but the product sells from 50,000 to 50 million dollars
aircraft leasing gets hardly any type in traffic but aircraft sell and lease for millions i also own many attorney names all two word litigation copyright patent injury ect. these are the names these companys should own but if they go by traffic it would seem no one visits them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traffic is under estimated people do not type in urls anymore search is the number to pay attention to,also if you have a generic keyword domain that sells a million dollar item then ten searches a month would be fantastic.<br />
I think what makes a domain valuable is what it describes and the business behind it,( the four c principal,) you are that business on the web and that is the most powerful branding you can have, i only have generic keyword domains and they all get lots of search but very few direct type in traffic one gets roughly 200 direct type ins but the product sells from 50,000 to 50 million dollars<br />
aircraft leasing gets hardly any type in traffic but aircraft sell and lease for millions i also own many attorney names all two word litigation copyright patent injury ect. these are the names these companys should own but if they go by traffic it would seem no one visits them.</p>
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		<title>By: Back To Basics: There Are Only Three Sources of Web Traffic &#124; Small Business Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.qualitynonsense.com/2477/domain-type-in-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-7897</link>
		<dc:creator>Back To Basics: There Are Only Three Sources of Web Traffic &#124; Small Business Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you may get some type-in traffic too. (Type-in traffic isn&#8217;t meaningful for most sites; this juicy and unique article has more information on that. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you may get some type-in traffic too. (Type-in traffic isn&#8217;t meaningful for most sites; this juicy and unique article has more information on that. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Website Valuation and Domain Appraisal Myths: A Cautionary Tale for Domainers &#124; Search and Social Media Marketing Management Consultant Stuntdubl.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Website Valuation and Domain Appraisal Myths: A Cautionary Tale for Domainers &#124; Search and Social Media Marketing Management Consultant Stuntdubl.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] code it will render to their landing page. Richard Kershaw has more about the dangers of the type in traffic myth based on some data he dug up from Sedo, so I&#8217;ll defer to his better post to explain this one [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] code it will render to their landing page. Richard Kershaw has more about the dangers of the type in traffic myth based on some data he dug up from Sedo, so I&#8217;ll defer to his better post to explain this one [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dandy Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dandy Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa..long and good post. I just can see any good of parking a domain, it&#039;s better to optimize it and generate something from than just parking it there and hope to bank in some cash.I really don&#039;t care if it a typo domain or not, as long as you can avoid getting sandboxed, than it&#039;s good enough already.IMHO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa..long and good post. I just can see any good of parking a domain, it&#8217;s better to optimize it and generate something from than just parking it there and hope to bank in some cash.I really don&#8217;t care if it a typo domain or not, as long as you can avoid getting sandboxed, than it&#8217;s good enough already.IMHO</p>
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		<title>By: seo blackhat blog</title>
		<link>http://www.qualitynonsense.com/2477/domain-type-in-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-7504</link>
		<dc:creator>seo blackhat blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>most good domains are took over and those landings dont work that good. still theres guys making loads of cash havin 100k typo domains</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>most good domains are took over and those landings dont work that good. still theres guys making loads of cash havin 100k typo domains</p>
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		<title>By: chase</title>
		<link>http://www.qualitynonsense.com/2477/domain-type-in-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-6974</link>
		<dc:creator>chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So i&#039;m curious... are ISP&#039;s really allowed to sell the data of failed lookups? 

I&#039;m currently running a campaign of several thousand domains to see what kind of type-in traffic I get. The traffic is coming in. But whether or not the traffic converts is really what i&#039;m interested in. I&#039;ll be sure to report back and let you all know what I find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So i&#8217;m curious&#8230; are ISP&#8217;s really allowed to sell the data of failed lookups? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently running a campaign of several thousand domains to see what kind of type-in traffic I get. The traffic is coming in. But whether or not the traffic converts is really what i&#8217;m interested in. I&#8217;ll be sure to report back and let you all know what I find.</p>
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		<title>By: info purwokerto</title>
		<link>http://www.qualitynonsense.com/2477/domain-type-in-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-6794</link>
		<dc:creator>info purwokerto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whats up about domain parked, i think is just an idea.but i prefer not park the domain.great post you have bos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whats up about domain parked, i think is just an idea.but i prefer not park the domain.great post you have bos.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Kershaw</title>
		<link>http://www.qualitynonsense.com/2477/domain-type-in-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-6790</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Kershaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;…and they keep on paying for them?!

They aren&#039;t buying the domains for type-in traffic - they are buying them for capital value, which they expect to appreciate over time.

&gt;frustrates me when I see a domain that’d be perfect
&gt;for my site parked for the sake of being parked

Next time drop them a line asking if it&#039;s for sale. And they are parked for the $1/mo parking revenue, not for the sake of being parked - that&#039;ll cover the reg fee over the course of a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>…and they keep on paying for them?!</p>
<p>They aren&#8217;t buying the domains for type-in traffic &#8211; they are buying them for capital value, which they expect to appreciate over time.</p>
<p>>frustrates me when I see a domain that’d be perfect<br />
>for my site parked for the sake of being parked</p>
<p>Next time drop them a line asking if it&#8217;s for sale. And they are parked for the $1/mo parking revenue, not for the sake of being parked &#8211; that&#8217;ll cover the reg fee over the course of a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Finch</title>
		<link>http://www.qualitynonsense.com/2477/domain-type-in-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-6782</link>
		<dc:creator>Finch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;His company owns many one word keyword domains which he told me they typically pays 5-6 figures (euros) for.

I asked how much type-in traffic they get. His answer? 40 visits/month.&quot;

...and they keep on paying for them?!

Personally, I&#039;ve never spent any serious time domaining and it frustrates me when I see a domain that&#039;d be perfect for my site parked for the sake of being parked. I&#039;ve always figured that if a lot of people are doing it, there&#039;s gotta be some profit in it. Interesting figures above if they&#039;re accurate or even close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;His company owns many one word keyword domains which he told me they typically pays 5-6 figures (euros) for.</p>
<p>I asked how much type-in traffic they get. His answer? 40 visits/month.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;and they keep on paying for them?!</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;ve never spent any serious time domaining and it frustrates me when I see a domain that&#8217;d be perfect for my site parked for the sake of being parked. I&#8217;ve always figured that if a lot of people are doing it, there&#8217;s gotta be some profit in it. Interesting figures above if they&#8217;re accurate or even close.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Kershaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Kershaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not saying that type-in traffic is not significant. I&#039;m certainly not saying that type-in traffic is not significant in aggregate.

What I *am* saying that, for a typical individual domain, volume is low and often low-quality traffic.

I met a major European domainer recently. His company owns many one word keyword domains which he told me they typically pays 5-6 figures (euros) for.

I asked how much type-in traffic they get. His answer? 40 visits/month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not saying that type-in traffic is not significant. I&#8217;m certainly not saying that type-in traffic is not significant in aggregate.</p>
<p>What I *am* saying that, for a typical individual domain, volume is low and often low-quality traffic.</p>
<p>I met a major European domainer recently. His company owns many one word keyword domains which he told me they typically pays 5-6 figures (euros) for.</p>
<p>I asked how much type-in traffic they get. His answer? 40 visits/month.</p>
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		<title>By: DR</title>
		<link>http://www.qualitynonsense.com/2477/domain-type-in-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-6757</link>
		<dc:creator>DR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OpenDNS sustains a business on type-in traffic alone: failed lookups (redirecting NXDOMAIN to parked pages of ads).

ISP&#039;s are doing it too.  Why?

Verisign tried to do it in 2003 and was threatened with a class action suit.  Then in 2007 they tried ot sell the NXDOMAIN data, and again were stopped.

The amount of typed-in traffic is not significant???  Is this what you are saying?  Then how do you explain the above?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OpenDNS sustains a business on type-in traffic alone: failed lookups (redirecting NXDOMAIN to parked pages of ads).</p>
<p>ISP&#8217;s are doing it too.  Why?</p>
<p>Verisign tried to do it in 2003 and was threatened with a class action suit.  Then in 2007 they tried ot sell the NXDOMAIN data, and again were stopped.</p>
<p>The amount of typed-in traffic is not significant???  Is this what you are saying?  Then how do you explain the above?</p>
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		<title>By: vppromoter</title>
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		<dc:creator>vppromoter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to say - I have crappy Lithuanian news site TYPO domain and it gets 100 U/D average daily. This news site gets 20000U/D. So I what I think - if you have typo or short domain or other similar domain and it gets TYPE IN traffic - you just check what is best places in your qwerty to make mistake and you will have a winner.
What you think about : adsence or adsenc - these ones gets tons of traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say &#8211; I have crappy Lithuanian news site TYPO domain and it gets 100 U/D average daily. This news site gets 20000U/D. So I what I think &#8211; if you have typo or short domain or other similar domain and it gets TYPE IN traffic &#8211; you just check what is best places in your qwerty to make mistake and you will have a winner.<br />
What you think about : adsence or adsenc &#8211; these ones gets tons of traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Leigh</title>
		<link>http://www.qualitynonsense.com/2477/domain-type-in-traffic/comment-page-1/#comment-6695</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 09:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s about time someone said what you have said in this article. I visited a domain name conference over a year ago and all the big names were there. The hype about domain names is very real and I think that a lot of domainers are now realising that parking is in some ways at the end of its life cycle.

I&#039;ve been domaining since 1995 and the one thing that I have told everyone that buys a domain name is that you must develop the domain name and not park it if you want a real return on your purchase.

I prefer GEO targetted domain names and I am currently making real living from concentrating on this area, and it&#039;s not parking them. In brief, this is how it works:

I bought 15,000 geo targetted domain names. The domains look like this, www.PlumberLancashire.co.uk I then built all the websites, completed SEO on them and got them to the first page of Google using tried and tested SEO methods and without using naughty tricks etc. I believe it was right to get the websites to the first page of Google for longevity and not a quick hit.

I rent the websites including the domain name and a full website with a content managment system to in this case a Plumber that is based in Lancashire. The cost is less than a mobile phone bill each month and the websites get good local traffic that turns into leads and business. This process has taken many years to put together and because of it I have over 5,000 websites on the first page of Google and Yahoo. 

I know what you sceptics out there will say about the time it&#039;s taken and the investment has been high. My response to this is simple, when I enetered the world of the Internet and domain names I came in it for the long term and I knew a long time ago that parking a domain wasn&#039;t the answer.

Maybe, my apporach is wrong, maybe domaining will change but in reality if making money was as easy as some domainers say we would al be millionnaires and there would be no recession. My approach has now been proven to no one esle but me because I have a living from it and if anyone wants help I&#039;ll do my best to help you.

I think this article has questioned the domain parking myth and if nothing else it will stop people with just a small amount of knowledge and finance wasting money on domain names that just won&#039;t pay.

Sean Leigh
www.CleverBusinessWebsites.co.uk
www.SeanLeigh.com
info@seanleigh.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s about time someone said what you have said in this article. I visited a domain name conference over a year ago and all the big names were there. The hype about domain names is very real and I think that a lot of domainers are now realising that parking is in some ways at the end of its life cycle.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been domaining since 1995 and the one thing that I have told everyone that buys a domain name is that you must develop the domain name and not park it if you want a real return on your purchase.</p>
<p>I prefer GEO targetted domain names and I am currently making real living from concentrating on this area, and it&#8217;s not parking them. In brief, this is how it works:</p>
<p>I bought 15,000 geo targetted domain names. The domains look like this, <a href="http://www.PlumberLancashire.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.PlumberLancashire.co.uk</a> I then built all the websites, completed SEO on them and got them to the first page of Google using tried and tested SEO methods and without using naughty tricks etc. I believe it was right to get the websites to the first page of Google for longevity and not a quick hit.</p>
<p>I rent the websites including the domain name and a full website with a content managment system to in this case a Plumber that is based in Lancashire. The cost is less than a mobile phone bill each month and the websites get good local traffic that turns into leads and business. This process has taken many years to put together and because of it I have over 5,000 websites on the first page of Google and Yahoo. </p>
<p>I know what you sceptics out there will say about the time it&#8217;s taken and the investment has been high. My response to this is simple, when I enetered the world of the Internet and domain names I came in it for the long term and I knew a long time ago that parking a domain wasn&#8217;t the answer.</p>
<p>Maybe, my apporach is wrong, maybe domaining will change but in reality if making money was as easy as some domainers say we would al be millionnaires and there would be no recession. My approach has now been proven to no one esle but me because I have a living from it and if anyone wants help I&#8217;ll do my best to help you.</p>
<p>I think this article has questioned the domain parking myth and if nothing else it will stop people with just a small amount of knowledge and finance wasting money on domain names that just won&#8217;t pay.</p>
<p>Sean Leigh<br />
<a href="http://www.CleverBusinessWebsites.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.CleverBusinessWebsites.co.uk</a><br />
<a href="http://www.SeanLeigh.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.SeanLeigh.com</a><br />
<a href="mailto:info@seanleigh.com">info@seanleigh.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Kershaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Kershaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ed -

&gt;I think people are typing all sorts of nonsense into their address bars. Nonexistent domains, bogus tlds
&gt;(there was in fact a CAIDA study on this years ago), strings missing tld extensions, URLs
&gt;with illegal characters, and who knows what else.

You hit the nail on the head: &quot;all sorts of nonsense&quot;. Does this sound like quality traffic? It ain&#039;t people typing balletshoes.com because they want to buy ballet shoes.

&gt;still not sure how it’s “dangerous”

If webmasters buy aftermarket domains on the promise of non-existent quality traffic, I belive dangerous is a fair description.

&gt; If direct navigation traffic is “negligible”

I said that type-in traffic was non-existent for most generic domains, not that direct navigation traffic was negligible.

&gt;then surely the sale of this data would not be so controversial.

That simply does not follow.

&gt;Why were they stopped from doing so?

Since I don&#039;t work for VeriSign, I am not in a position to say so.

&gt;The amount of typed-in traffic is not significant???
&gt;Is this what you are saying? 

No, that&#039;s not what I am saying. I am saying that type-in traffic for a typical quality undeveloped domain is negligible.

I have no doubt that type-in traffic for - your words - &#039;all sorts of nonsense&#039; is enormous.</description>
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<p>>I think people are typing all sorts of nonsense into their address bars. Nonexistent domains, bogus tlds<br />
>(there was in fact a CAIDA study on this years ago), strings missing tld extensions, URLs<br />
>with illegal characters, and who knows what else.</p>
<p>You hit the nail on the head: &#8220;all sorts of nonsense&#8221;. Does this sound like quality traffic? It ain&#8217;t people typing balletshoes.com because they want to buy ballet shoes.</p>
<p>>still not sure how it’s “dangerous”</p>
<p>If webmasters buy aftermarket domains on the promise of non-existent quality traffic, I belive dangerous is a fair description.</p>
<p>> If direct navigation traffic is “negligible”</p>
<p>I said that type-in traffic was non-existent for most generic domains, not that direct navigation traffic was negligible.</p>
<p>>then surely the sale of this data would not be so controversial.</p>
<p>That simply does not follow.</p>
<p>>Why were they stopped from doing so?</p>
<p>Since I don&#8217;t work for VeriSign, I am not in a position to say so.</p>
<p>>The amount of typed-in traffic is not significant???<br />
>Is this what you are saying? </p>
<p>No, that&#8217;s not what I am saying. I am saying that type-in traffic for a typical quality undeveloped domain is negligible.</p>
<p>I have no doubt that type-in traffic for &#8211; your words &#8211; &#8216;all sorts of nonsense&#8217; is enormous.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OpenDNS sustains a business on type-in traffic alone: failed lookups (redirecting NXDOMAIN to parked pages of ads).

ISP&#039;s are doing it too.  Why?

Verisign tried to do it in 2003 and was threatened with a class action suit.  Then in 2007 they tried ot sell the NXDOMAIN data, and again were stopped.

The amount of typed-in traffic is not significant???  Is this what you are saying?  Then how do you explain the above?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OpenDNS sustains a business on type-in traffic alone: failed lookups (redirecting NXDOMAIN to parked pages of ads).</p>
<p>ISP&#8217;s are doing it too.  Why?</p>
<p>Verisign tried to do it in 2003 and was threatened with a class action suit.  Then in 2007 they tried ot sell the NXDOMAIN data, and again were stopped.</p>
<p>The amount of typed-in traffic is not significant???  Is this what you are saying?  Then how do you explain the above?</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the value of type-in really is a &quot;myth&quot; (still not sure how it&#039;s &quot;dangerous&quot;) then why did Verisign think they could sell their failed lookup data in 2007?  If direct navigation traffic is &quot;negligible&quot;, then surely the sale of this data would not be so controversial.
Why were they stopped from doing so?  

ISP&#039;s sell data that includes failed lookups.

I think people are typing all sorts of nonsense into their address bars.  Nonexistent domains, bogus tlds (there was in fact a CAIDA study on this years ago), strings missing tld extensions, URLs with illegal characters, and who knows what else.  Just look at the amount of typo traffic we keep reading about.  Think about the portion of other &quot;typos&quot; that must never find a host.  I think this is all &quot;quality nonsense&quot;.  It has value because it shows us what people are looking for.

I agree that generic keywords do seem to have more value than just current traffic (if any).  They are memorable and easy to type.  And there are only so many of them.  It is like owning a piece of language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the value of type-in really is a &#8220;myth&#8221; (still not sure how it&#8217;s &#8220;dangerous&#8221;) then why did Verisign think they could sell their failed lookup data in 2007?  If direct navigation traffic is &#8220;negligible&#8221;, then surely the sale of this data would not be so controversial.<br />
Why were they stopped from doing so?  </p>
<p>ISP&#8217;s sell data that includes failed lookups.</p>
<p>I think people are typing all sorts of nonsense into their address bars.  Nonexistent domains, bogus tlds (there was in fact a CAIDA study on this years ago), strings missing tld extensions, URLs with illegal characters, and who knows what else.  Just look at the amount of typo traffic we keep reading about.  Think about the portion of other &#8220;typos&#8221; that must never find a host.  I think this is all &#8220;quality nonsense&#8221;.  It has value because it shows us what people are looking for.</p>
<p>I agree that generic keywords do seem to have more value than just current traffic (if any).  They are memorable and easy to type.  And there are only so many of them.  It is like owning a piece of language.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only have a small number of domains parked at Sedo but I noticed that when I delisted them for sale, I got more clicks.</description>
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